Final
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Feb
12, 2009 / 10:00PM GMT, TGAL - Q3 2009 Tegal Corporation Earnings
Conference Call
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CORPORATE
PARTICIPANTS
Christine
Hergenrother
Tegal
- - CFO
Tom
Mika
Tegal
- - President & CEO
CONFERENCE
CALL PARTICIPANTS
Steve
Sullivan
Horizon
Financial Group - Analyst
PRESENTATION
Good
day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Tegal Third Quarter Fiscal 2009
Earnings Conference Call. My name is Emmanuel and I'll be your operator for
today. (OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS.) I would now like to turn the call over to your
host for today, Ms. Christine Hergenrother, Chief Financial Officer. Please
proceed, ma'am.
Christine
Hergenrother - Tegal -
CFO
Thank
you. Good afternoon, and welcome to Tegal's Investor Conference Call for the
third quarter of fiscal 2009, which ended December 31, 2008. Before I review the
financial results for the quarter, I have two housekeeping items. The first is a
reminder that a digital recording of this conference call will be made available
two hours after the completion of the call and it will be available through
midnight on Thursday, February 19, 2009. To access investors should dial
888-286-8010 or 617-801-6888 and enter passcode 89955875. An online replay of
the call, along with the Company's earnings release, will be made available on
the Company's website, as well.
The
second housekeeping is an item--is a reminder that the important Safe Harbor
statement that should be taken into consideration when listening to comments
that will be made on this call. Except for historical information, matters
discussed on this call are forward-looking statements. Such forward-looking
statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, including but not
limited to, industry conditions, economic conditions, acceptance of new
technology, the growth of target markets, as well as other risks. Actual
operations and financial results may differ materially from Tegal's expectations
as a result of these factors or unanticipated events.
Specifically,
we refer you to the risks and uncertainties as set forth in the Company's
periodic filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Following my
review of the financial performance for the quarter, I will introduce Tom Mika,
President and Chief Executive Officer of Tegal, who will have some additional
comments. After that we will entertain questions from the dial-in
audience.
Revenues
for the fiscal third quarter were 4.5 million, a sequential increase of 123%
from 2 million in the fiscal second quarter of 2009 and a decrease of 56% from
the 10.1 million recorded for the same quarter one year ago. Our reported net
loss for the third quarter is 1.4 million, or $0.19 per share, compared to a net
income of 2.8 million, or $0.39 per share, in the comparable quarter one year
ago. Importantly, we have cut our net loss by 44% from the immediately preceding
quarter when we reported a net loss of 2.5 million or $0.34 per
share.
Gross
profits for the third quarter came in at 30.5% compared to 43.6% in the
comparable quarter one year ago and 50.8% in the second quarter of this fiscal
year. Margins for Q2 were higher than normal due to the predominance of spare
part sales in that quarter's revenue. Q3 gross margins were impacted by the
recent integration of our new DRIE system and to our manufacturing organization
and increased competition from third parties in our spare parts
business.
Overall
operating expenses for the third quarter were 2.8 million, an increase of about
100,000 from the same quarter last year and a decrease of 700,000 compared to
last quarter.
Sales and
marketing expense remained flat from last quarter and decreased from the same
period last year by approximately 230,000, due largely to a decrease in sales
commission. Overall R&D spending remained flat from the prior quarter. In
the same quarter one year ago, R&D expenses included a credit of
approximately 200,000 for non-reoccurring development work. Going forward, such
credits will be included in revenue. When compared to last quarter, G&A
expense decreased by 600,000, primarily due to high legal and accounting fees
last quarter related to the acquisition. Compared to the same quarter last year,
G&A expenses remained flat.
The
resulting operating loss for the third quarter was 1.4 million compared to
income of 2.7 million in the same quarter one year ago and a loss of 2.4 million
in the second quarter of this fiscal year. Included in operating income were
non-cash charges of approximately 400,000 of stock compensation, depreciation,
and amortization. Excluding these non-cash charges, operating loss for the third
quarter was 1 million. Non-operating expenses netted out to a gain for the
quarter of 50,000, consisting mostly of interest income and an offset of foreign
exchange losses and other income.
Now,
moving to the balance sheet. Cash at the end of the third quarter was 12.7
million, a decrease of 1.3 million from last quarter. Accounts receivable
increased by 1.6 million from last quarter coming in at 6.2 million. Inventories
increased by 400,000 from the prior quarter to about 14 million. DP&E,
intangibles, and other assets, decreased to a combined 228,000 consisting mainly
of depreciation and amortization and retirements of fixed assets taken during
the quarter. Total current liabilities increased by 1.3 million over the last
quarter, primarily due to a 1.2 million increase in accounts payable. The
company had no long term liabilities at the end of this quarter. The company's
book to bill ratio was less than one during the quarter and the backlog at the
end of the quarter stood at 2.8 million where it is today. It is important to
remember that we do not include service and spares bookings in our backlog.
Total outstanding shares as of December 31, 2008 were 8,321,496.
I would
now like to introduce Tom Mika, our President and Chief Executive
Officer.
Tom
Mika - Tegal - President &
CEO
Thanks,
Christine. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining the call. We were
pleased to be able to report improving sequential sales results and that our
backlog has grown since the end of last quarter. A notable accomplishment in the
face of a very weak demand for capital equipment globally. Fortunately, with the
acquisition of the Alcatel DRIE product lines, Tegal's business has shifted out
of semiconductors into MEM's, integrated devices, and related areas. While these
markets are not immune to the global financial crisis, they are much less
concentrated than semiconductor manufacturing. Along with large multinational
corporations, MEMs producers include many small and medium size companies, not
normally associated with semiconductors. They range from component suppliers to
watch companies to makers of precision gyroscopes and sensors for military
applications.
The
diversity of this customer group in terms of both size and end use helps both to
increase the number of revenue opportunities for Tegal and to lower the overall
financial risk for the company. We believe this larger addressable market
opportunity allowed us to increase our backlog during a period when many
semiconductor capital equipment companies are dramatically slashing their
forecasts. Nevertheless, we are clearly being impacted by the economy and the
environment remains highly challenging, unpredictable and uncertain. So in order
to preserve our operating flexibility in cash we are taking further steps to
lower our operating expenses and fixed costs. In Q3, we cut our cash burn from
operations in half to 1 million, but there is more than we--that we can
do.
This
morning I announced to Tegal's employees a further 10% reduction in headcount on
top of the 10% that we took last quarter. In addition, we have decided not to
fill some open positions and we are reducing salaries across the board by an
initial 5% to be followed if needed by another 5% next quarter. On top of this,
we are requiring that all employees take five days unpaid time off each quarter
for the next four quarters. Finally, we are scrubbing all expense categories for
possible savings, including the further consolidation of offices both in the
U.S. and abroad.
In this
environment it is not sufficient to just reduce costs. We are thinking
strategically about how we can use this period to improve the performance of our
products, introduce our capabilities to a brand new set of customers, and refine
our market position and message for customers, investors, and
employees.
The DRIE
tools are at the core of Tegal strategy to lead the market in innovative
specialized solutions that enable the manufacturing of MEMs, integrated devices,
optoelectronics, power devices, and 3D microelectronics. Our other technologies,
including plasma etch, PVD, and NLD, contribute to this overall strategy by
providing opportunities for process integration or by providing unique solutions
that are peculiar to the needs of device manufacturers in these same
markets.
On the
sales side, the acquisition of the Alcatel product lines has introduced Tegal to
a wide range of new customers globally. Our direct sales teams in the U.S. and
Europe are very active in introducing Tegal's capabilities to literally hundreds
of new customers and I am encouraged by the initial reaction to our efforts. In
this market, it will always be challenging to make sales, but we have a broader
product line, a deeper customer base, and a much larger addressable market with
the addition of the AMMS tools. We believe these factors will help us weather
the downturn.
To
further broaden our reach, we are in the process of building up a distribution
and support network in Eastern Europe, Russia, India, and Israel, as well as in
China, Taiwan, Korea, Japan, Singapore, and Malaysia. All of these markets
represent future opportunities for incremental revenue growth for
Tegal.
In
product development, we are in the midst of a reorganization of our activities
in order to more effectively improve and industrialize DRIE systems and
processes. This will involve the formation of a subsidiary company in France
that will be staffed by a small team of specialists in the DRIE tools, including
former employees and contractors from Alcatel. There are substantial benefits to
our expense line from focusing our efforts in France and our orientation in
Petaluma will be to offer project management and engineering support to this
effort as a top priority. We will have some public announcements on this and
related topics in the coming weeks.
I believe
that all of these changes will enable Tegal to ride out the current economic
downturn and position the company to emerge as a stronger entity post recession.
We are closely focused on improving our sales effort, further increasing the
technological advantages of our products and reducing costs across all aspects
of our business operations. We are also refining our strategy to address the
changing market conditions. I will update you more on our plans on next
quarter's conference call. When we emerge from this downturn, we fully intend to
be stronger and better positioned than we have ever been in the past, and I am
confident that we will achieve that goal.
Thanks
for your attention. I know these comments are short relative to my normal
speech, but I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have.
Thanks.
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Feb
12, 2009 / 10:00PM GMT, TGAL - Q3 2009 Tegal Corporation Earnings
Conference Call
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QUESTION AND
ANSWER
(OPERATOR
INSTRUCTIONS.) And our first question will come from the line of Steve Sullivan
with Horizon Financial Group. Please proceed.
Steve
Sullivan - Horizon Financial
Group - Analyst
Hi,
Tom. A couple of quick ones, and then I'll go into more of the strategy. Backlog
was up at--can you tell the level it was up? I'm sorry. I got the 2.8, but I was
unaware of where it was last quarter.
Christine
Hergenrother - Tegal -
CFO
It
was at 1.1 last quarter.
Steve
Sullivan - Horizon Financial
Group - Analyst
And
inventory at 14 million, is that a comfortable level for you, Tom?
Tom
Mika - Tegal - President &
CEO
Yes,
I think so. I think that you've got to remember that we have some of the
inventory from the Alcatel acquisition that came in. And our practice on the
development side is to keep our development tools in inventory because we
typically roll those out as sales, so rather than putting them in right from the
start as fixed costs or expensing them. So, yes, I'm comfortable with that level
of inventory.
Steve
Sullivan - Horizon Financial
Group - Analyst
Okay.
A question for you on as far as the breakeven level on a cash flow basis. Can
you give me a sense of where that is?
Tom
Mika - Tegal - President &
CEO
Yes.
It partially depends on what we're actually going to be able to implement in
terms of consolidation in the next several months. But I'm pretty sure it's
below 6 million, and the question is how much below 6 million. We're at $1
million loss at 4.5 million in sales. At 5.5 before these reductions, we'd
probably be a 500,000 loss. And I think that--so it's probably with the
reduction somewhere in the $5.5 to $6 million range. The--let me ask--answer a
question that you haven't asked, which is that our--we figure out of our
operating expenses these combined reductions that we've done, we're going to be
able to take about 2 million in expense out of--not just OpEx, but overall
department expenses.
Steve
Sullivan - Horizon Financial
Group - Analyst
That's
on an annualized basis?
Tom
Mika - Tegal - President &
CEO
Yes.
Steve
Sullivan - Horizon Financial
Group - Analyst
Okay.
Gross margin, Tom? I realize you have a different mix with the acquisition, but
that's a pretty precipitous drop versus last year. Can you give me your--some of
the thoughts there?
Tom
Mika - Tegal - President &
CEO
Well,
versus last quarter I think is the biggest drop.
Steve
Sullivan - Horizon Financial
Group - Analyst
I'm
looking at the 43.6. I know last quarter you had a lot of spare parts and that
type of unique animals.
Tom
Mika - Tegal - President &
CEO
Right.
That's--.
Steve
Sullivan - Horizon Financial
Group - Analyst
--But
you're still down 13-plus.
Tom
Mika - Tegal - President &
CEO
Right.
And there are two issues driving that. One is the systems gross margins and the
other is the spares gross margins. Now, on systems gross margins, we're getting
used to this Alcatel relationship. And right now, since we don't have
manufacturing in the United States, we're still procuring from subcontractors in
France and in Japan. And for the moment, we're pleased to be able to do that.
And the reason is that those fixed costs stay in France and in Japan. Now, I
know that we're going to take a little bit of a hit on the gross margin because
of that in the short term. I know though that in the long term, as our forecast
becomes clearer, then I can move manufacturing to the United States and I think
that we can significantly improve that.
On the
spares side, these are spares not really related to the Alcatel systems, but
they're related to our legacy tools that are in the market, typically with
semiconductor manufacturers. The semiconductor manufacturers are really putting
pressure on us to lower our margins on the spares. And the competition is from
third parties who don't have engineering capabilities. They simply copy our
spare parts and offer them at low gross margins for them. So we're getting some
pressure on that. We've reminded our customers, particularly our important
customers, that that's not helpful to a long term relationship. And we've been
able to recapture some of that business, but we've done it at the expense of
gross margins.
I'm
pretty confident though that at the--as the mix of spares moves from our legacy
tools, which have been in the market for a very long time, to our DRIE tools,
that we'll see that--those margins come back. Right now, so long as we're under
absorbed, I want to keep that revenue in our own company, so I'm willing to
sacrifice the gross margins.
Steve
Sullivan - Horizon Financial
Group - Analyst
Looking
out six months or so, Tom, I would gather that gross margin would work itself
back to more traditional levels?
Tom
Mika - Tegal - President &
CEO
I
think that it's a six-month to 12-month process. The DRIE business is right at
this moment very competitive. And the reason that it's competitive is that we've
got a couple of companies out there who are competing against us that I would
question their viability. And so, I think that we're going to have some price
competition. And that is a point that I just have to get out there to customers
so that they understand that this is our business. We're not a much larger
company that might one day decide that they're going to give it up just as
Alcatel did. And we're not a company that is at risk of going out of business
anytime soon.
Steve
Sullivan - Horizon Financial
Group - Analyst
If
the operator has another question, bump me off and I'll come back. But is there
a [leverage] charge in here or any unique one-time events, Christine, that we
should be aware of?
Christine
Hergenrother - Tegal -
CFO
In
the revenue?
Steve
Sullivan - Horizon Financial
Group - Analyst
No,
in the cost.
Christine
Hergenrother - Tegal -
CFO
In
the cost? No. This is a very normal quarter for us.
Steve
Sullivan - Horizon Financial
Group - Analyst
Okay.
So the 10% prior--that hit prior quarters? I'm a little lost on the--you
basically had a riff of 10% and you just implemented another one today. The 10%,
the first one, when were those severance costs run through the
P&L?
Christine
Hergenrother - Tegal -
CFO
The
severance costs on the prior one were in the prior quarter.
Steve
Sullivan - Horizon Financial
Group - Analyst
Okay.
Christine
Hergenrother - Tegal -
CFO
As
well as the one-time costs for the acquisition, the legal and accounting
fees.
Steve
Sullivan - Horizon Financial
Group - Analyst
And
that's--legal and accounting was about 600?
Christine
Hergenrother - Tegal -
CFO
Right,
exactly. Well, the legal and accounting for the acquisition was around 400,000
for legal and about 150 for accounting.
Tom
Mika - Tegal - President &
CEO
600,000.
Christine
Hergenrother - Tegal -
CFO
Right,
total. But I mean, to split them both out. Then the severance cost for this next
layoff you'll see in Q1 of next fiscal year. But Q4 should stay pretty
flat.
Tom
Mika - Tegal - President &
CEO
Okay.
How much roughly would that charge be?
Christine
Hergenrother - Tegal -
CFO
We're
thinking it's probably between 400 and 500,000. I'm sorry, for the
savings.
Steve
Sullivan - Horizon Financial
Group - Analyst
Yes.
Tom
Mika - Tegal - President &
CEO
The
costs--.
Steve
Sullivan - Horizon Financial
Group - Analyst
--How
about the costs?
Christine
Hergenrother - Tegal -
CFO
I
don't--to tell you the truth, I haven't really calculated the cost. My guess is
it's around 150,000.
Steve
Sullivan - Horizon Financial
Group - Analyst
Okay.
Tom
Mika - Tegal - President &
CEO
It's
not very significant. We're not in a position to be offering large severance
packages to any employees. And we've taken an approach that's so much different
this time around. The room that we had our employees in this morning included
those who were going--who knew already that they were going to be termed. And
we're going to do the best we can to grow the business, so that we can get some
of these people back in a reasonable period of time.
Steve
Sullivan - Horizon Financial
Group - Analyst
What
is the headcount up at your facility up there?
Tom
Mika - Tegal - President &
CEO
Well,
we're about 50 prior to this round of layoffs. And I think that if you look at
our overall headcount we're probably down to 65 in that range
worldwide.
Steve
Sullivan - Horizon Financial
Group - Analyst
Worldwide.
Tom, one last question. You've been through a lot of cycles. What benchmarks in
the industry cycles do you look for to try to foresee a turn? Or is this so
unique that the rules of ago no longer apply?
Tom
Mika - Tegal - President &
CEO
Yes.
The rules that I would've looked for in sort of semiconductors don't really
apply to us anymore and I'm really pleased about that. We're really competing
customer by customer. What's very significant, and I need to get this message
across, is we literally have hundreds of new customers who are in very different
businesses with different business models. So you've got defense contractors and
you've got automotive manufacturers or suppliers to automotives. And it
really--on a case by case basis, we still have customers out there who have
budgets and are ready to spend and the competition is tough and they know that
this is a good environment to be a buyer in.
But we're
looking at just raw opportunity numbers, which are greater than we've ever seen.
We're looking at demos, which are characteristically different types of demos
than we've done in the past. These are real demos as opposed to process
development work. And it's an area in which companies are still investing and
innovating. And so, for that reason, I'm pretty excited about it. I think though
that when Alcatel decided to get out of the business and we looked at it, there
was a natural decline or customers started to become interested in our
competitors and we noticed that our competitors did a lot of marketing and a lot
of sales activity to compete directly against us, basically trying to paint the
picture that this product line was going away. We're having to counter that and
I think we're doing it effectively.
And
actually, I can really turn the tables on some of those guys by saying what I
said earlier with respect to small non-strategic assets in larger companies or
other companies that simply don't have the wherewithal to continue in this
business, or large companies who are traditional mainstream suppliers who all of
a sudden become interested in DRIE. Where will those companies be when their
natural mainstream markets turnaround?
So I
think we've got a really good message. It's focused and we're getting it out to
customers. So I'm pretty--even though the environment is horrible, I'm pretty
optimistic about our being able to move the needle.
Steve
Sullivan - Horizon Financial
Group - Analyst
I
lied. One last question. R&D cycle with your acquisition and everything
else, R&D expenses, sequentially in the next couple of quarters - flat,
down, sideways? Can you kind of give me a sense there?
Tom
Mika - Tegal - President &
CEO
It's
going up. And the--our expenses had to do with really the integration of this
and all the training associated with getting up to speed on how to do these
demos. Overall, I think we'll end up being flat if you go out six months to
where we are now. Against these reductions that we're making we're also staffing
in other areas, as in France where I mentioned that we're going to put a
specialist team in. And I'll have more to say about that next quarter I
think.
Steve
Sullivan - Horizon Financial
Group - Analyst
Okay.
Thank you very much.
Tom
Mika - Tegal - President &
CEO
Thanks,
Steve.
And
at this time I show no more questions in queue.
Tom
Mika - Tegal - President &
CEO
Okay,
then. Thanks very much, everyone, for joining us. And we'll see you next
quarter.
And
thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the
presentation. You may now disconnect. Good day.